Saturday, August 31, 2024

THE CASE FOR KEEPING SAWYL AS ARTHUR'S FATHER


Since writing this blog post -

https://mistshadows.blogspot.com/2024/08/campus-elleti-and-home-for-ambrosius-on.html?m=1

- I've had to consider whether I've been wrong about my Illtud > Sawyl = Uther theory.

Here is why I don't think I am...

1) Campus Elleti, no matter where it is located, is not the River/Valley of Ely. From a presumed W. Maes Elleti, the site was probably associated with Ambrosius because the Gallic prefect Ambrosius and his son belonged on the River Moselle/Mosella. The story of the fatherless boy playing ball at Elleti is a borrowing of the Irish story of Mac Og the fatherless god playing ball at Bri Leith. As Mabon, the W. counterpart of Mac Og, was at Gileston near Elleti, Ambrosius as the "Divine/Immortal One" looks to be a mythological and not a historical figure.  Emrys was placed at Dinas Emrys because the mountainous region of Eryri, interpreted as being related to the W. word for eagle, was linked to St. Ambrose's presence at Aquileia. According to legend, Ambrosius rules from Dinas Emrys. We would not find him as the Terrible Chief-dragon at Campus Elleti, which he was removed from as a child.

2) Converting Ambrosius into Arthur's father requires the adoption of a grossly anachronistic timeline - or the creation of a purely hypothetical man of that name living a number of generations after his namesake.

3) Dragon in the context of Pendragon meant 'warrior' or 'warriors.' There is no need to associate the term with the red dragon of Dinas Emrys. Geoffrey of Monmouth's dragon-star and draco standard's are fictions which grew out of his misinterpretation of Pendragon as meaning 'Dragon's head.'

4) The court of Pawl Penychen, where Illtud the terrible (= uthr) soldier, knight and magister militum/princeps militum (= pendragon) served, is either Dinas Powis hillfort or the great Caerau hillfort.

5) Uther is transformed into a second Sawyl in his elegy poem. Illtud is confused with Sawyl in sants' lives, and metaphorically compared to Samuel in the Galfridian tradition. It is quite conceivable that while Illtud as Uther Pendragon was taken for Arthur's father, the hero's real father was the Sawyl with whom Illtud had become confused.

6) With Sawyl as Arther's real father, we can nicely account for Madog and Eliwlad (son and grandson of Uther, respectively) as reflections of Sawyl's son Madog Ailithir. We can also explain, through Sawyl's Dal Fiatach marriage connection, how the subsequent Dalriadan and Dyfed Arthurs came to be.

7) Arthur's battles are in the North. Sawyl was a chieftain of the North based at Ribchester. 

For these reasons, I do not think it is profitable to continue looking at Ambrosius as a possible Uther Pendragon.



Friday, August 30, 2024

CAMPUS ELLETI AND A HOME FOR AMBROSIUS ON HADRIAN'S WALL

Prudhoe Castle and Hexham, with Corbridge Roman Fort and Arthur's Dubglas River Battle Site

A few days ago I wrote this blog piece, resurrecting the old idea that Uther Pendragon, Arthur's father, might be Ambrosius:


[A couple subsequent posts touched on other aspects of the same subject:


A head-note added subsequent to its publication stated that I still needed to pin down the location and significance of Ambrosius's Campus Elleti.  It is to this purpose that I turn now.

Now, I once flirted with the notion that Campus Elleti (= the Old French 'Camelot') could be in the North:



I ultimately abandoned the idea, as it seemed rather unlikely, despite the etymological correspondence between Elleti and the divine name Alliitio at Corbridge Roman fort.  And this was true despite the apparent survival of a place named for the goddess Brigantia Caelestis (Heavenfield) at Corbridge, which served as a sort of precedent:


Graham Isaac's treatment of Elleti and Alliitio have held up, however.  To remind my readers:

"The form of the name Elleti is corroborated by the instance of 'palude [Latin for “marsh” or “swamp”] Elleti' in Book of Llan Dav (148). But since both that and HB’s campum Elleti are in Latin contexts, we cannot see whether the name is OW Elleti (= Elledi) or OW Ellet (= Elled) with a Latin genitive ending. Both are possible. My guess would be that OW Elleti is right. As the W suffix -i would motivate affection, so allowing the base to be posited as all-, the same as in W ar-all 'other', all-tud 'exile', Gaulish allo-, etc. Elleti would be 'other-place, place of the other side (of something)'."

Dr. Isaac then went on to say that Elleti may be the same word as the ALLIITIO personal or god name found at Corbridge.  He added: “Taking the double -ll- at face value, as I would be inclined to do as a working hypothesis, that would be connected the W all- that I have mentioned before.” 

To this proposed etymology for these words, the following Celtic experts chimed in:

Prof. Dr. Peter Schrijver:

"Yes, that would work. Incidentally the spelling II in ALLIITIO is read /e/, and Alletio works better for Elleti than Allitio does."

Dr. Simon Rodway:

"Graham's suggestion sounds perfectly plausible to me, and accounts for the form Elleti."

Alliitio from Corbridge


So, that's all well and fine. We have a Campus/Palud Elleti that is a missing place-name in Glamorgan, supposedly found (according to the Book of Llandaf) between the River Thaw and the estate of Gilbert de Umfreville at Penmark.  And we have a name, perhaps of a god, found at Corbridge, near where Arthur fought several battles on the Devil's Water at Linnels.  Nice coincidence, but nothing to hang anything firmer on.  Right?

Wrong.

As it happens, the de Umfreville family first held lands in Northumberland.  One of their chief castles was at Prudhoe, only a dozen or so kilometers to the east of Corbridge.  Members of the family were actually entombed at Hexham Abbey, the construction stones of which were taken from the nearby Roman fort.

Furthermore, Aydon Castle, even closer to Corbridge, was once held by de Umfrevilles:



For a good treatment of the family and the Gilberts at Penmark and Prudhoe, see


What this tells me is that a place-name featuring the divine name Alliitio/Alletio once known at Corbridge has been, through the usual folkloristic processes, relocated from the Northumberland lands of the de Umfrevilles to the Glamorgan estate. 

Or, alternately, there was an Elleti name in the Penmark estate, now submerged under another English place-name (like Kenson) or simply lost.  But, such a name would have been brought to Penmark from the Elleti name at/in the vicinity of Corbridge by the de Umfrevilles. 

If so - and Ambrosius is Uther Pendragon, Arthur's father - then Arthur belongs on Hadrian's Wall and we can retain the Northern battles for our hero.

Of course, we would have to predicate that Ambrosius had an identity independent of the 4th century Gaulish prefect and his son of the same name.  The latter two men would merely be legendary accretions, although it is certainly possible that someone on the Wall had been named after a notable Roman of a previous generation whose prefecture included Britain.

At present I'm in communication with experts in the history of Penmark and the de Umfrevilles, and if they can contribute anything of value to the discussion I will add it to this article as a footnote.  

NOTE 1:

When talking about Mabon of Elei/Ely as a servant of Uther Pendragon, I have pointed to Gileston just to the west of the Ely, which was once a 'church' of Mabon.  But I also have shown how close Gileston is to the supposed location of Elleti.  It may not be a coincidence that of the extant Maponos inscriptions in Britain, the majority were found at Corbridge.  

NOTE 2:

But What About Gildas’s Ambrosius?

Although I have shown to my satisfaction why Ambrosius Aurelianus was not only wrongly placed in Britain, but put there at the wrong time, I've been asked a very good question by some of my readers:  "That's all well and fine, if we're talking about the tradition recorded in Nennius and subsequent sources (like Geoffrey of Monmouth's pseudo-history).  But what about A.A.'s appearance in Gildas?  How do you account for that?"

As it happens, that is an excellent question.  And not an easy one to answer.  But I will take a stab at it, in any case.

A.A. was Prefect of Gaul (and thus of Britain as well) c. 337-340.  We do not know when he died, but his son St. Ambrose (with whom he was conflated in Welsh legend) moved to Rome with his mother not earlier than 353 (https://books.google.com/books?id=sc49DwAAQBAJ&pg=PA7&lpg=PA7&dq=st.+ambrose+and+his+mother+went+to+rome&source=bl&ots=7w4smM9os3&sig=ACfU3U0AuKyqO3hjZIrPlxdpBvQVvfCZ5g&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi_hL-SzqnpAhUOsp4KHZLYANQQ6AEwDHoECAgQAQ#v=onepage&q=st.%20ambrose%20and%20his%20mother%20went%20to%20rome&f=false).  Some have thought A.A. may have fallen at the same time as his Emperor Constantine II, who died in 340. 

In 343, Constantine's brother Constans, the new Western Emperor, visited Britain.  It is not known precisely why (see http://www.roman-emperors.org/consi.htm#9), but the reason is hinted at in Ammianus:

Book XX
1 1 Lupicinus, master of arms, is sent with an army to Britain, to resist the inroads of the Scots and Picts.

Such was the course of events throughout Illyricum and the Orient. But in Britain in the tenth consulship of Constantius and the third of Julian raids of the savage tribes of the Scots and the Picts, who had broken the peace that had been agreed upon, were laying waste the regions near the frontiers, so that fear seized the provincials, wearied as they were by a mass of past calamities. And Julian, who was passing the winter in Paris and was distracted amid many cares, was afraid to go to the aid of those across the sea, as Constans once did (as I have told),1 

1 In one of the lost books; it was in 343.

Let us suppose, for the sake of argument, that A.A. did not perish with Constantine.  That although he was no longer serving as Prefect of Gaul, he accompanied Constans to Britain in some capacity.  This is certainly not out of the realm of the possible.  Granted, Constantine I/the Great had made the praetorian prefecture a civil, rather than a military post.  But A.A. could have been replaced by another prefect, and found himself in another role as part of a major military expedition to Britain.  It's also not inconceivable that A.A. fled to Britain after Constantine II's death, although had that been the case we would have expected him to take his family with him.  

However it happened, if A.A. were in Britain at the time, how do we account for the sequence of events in Gildas?

Rather easily, I suspect.  The problem has to do with a simple confusion of the two emperors named Constans - the one who was in Britain in 343 and the Constans II, son of the Constantine III who had been proclaimed emperor in Britain in 407.  

A very puzzling line in Gildas has not, to my knowledge, been analyzed.  It occurs in 25:2, and runs as follows:  "After a time, when the cruel plunderers had gone home, God gave strength to the survivors." These survivors, and those who flocked to them, had as their leader A.A.  On the surface, this would seem to be a nonsensical statement.  The Saxons invited in by Vortigern did not, in fact, go home.  Gildas had just previously told us that they had invited in more of their kind and proceeded to take over the island. We are told in Nennius that Vortimer pushed them to the Isle of Thanet, but that after he was slain they continued their depredations and conquest.  

So who went home when A.A. showed up on the scene?

I would propose that Gildas' account is here hopelessly confused.  The enemy that withdraws in this context was forced to do so by Constans I, accompanid by A.A., who may well have had the military command.  We are probably talking about Scots and Picts, not Saxons.  What we appear to have here is a simple jumbling of fourth and fifth century events.

However, it is not inconceivable that the 4th century prefect Ambrosius accompanied Constans to Britain and that they fought in the North, perhaps even engaging in actions on Hadrian's Wall. And that a subsequent generation at Corbridge named a son after Ambrosius.

NOTE 3:

The early sources associate the Red Dragon of Britain with two men: Votigern and Ambrosius.

From Nerys Ann Jones' notes on the Arthurian 'Pa Gur' poem (ARTHUR IN EARLY WELSH POETRY, 2019) when I came across the following on the dragon of Gwynedd/Arfon:


A rather puzzling reference to the Red Dragon appears in the poem 'Gwarchan Maeldderw'. I've mentioned this before, as the line in question seems to assign the creature to Vortigern under his title "Fiery Pharaoh" (a Welsh misrendering of a Latin passage in Gildas).  

When G.R. Isaac translates the G.M., he takes Line 21 -

ar rud dhreic fud pharaon

and re-orders it thusly:

ar fudd draig rudd Ffaraon

He then translates it as "in the presence of the spoils of the Pharaoh's red dragon." He does this because he is "interpreting the syntax as a poetic transformation of what would normally be expressed in the word order (see note to his Gwarchan Maeldderw: A "Lost" Medieval Welsh Classic?, Cambrian Medieval Celtic Studies 44, Winter 2002).  

But if we retain the original word order, another interpretation of the line is possible (something I have confirmed with Dr. Simon Rodway of The University of Wales):

"the spoils/booty of Pharaoh before/in front of/in the presence of the Red Dragon"

Williams in CANU ANEIRIN (.p. 379) says that mention of 'the red dragon of Pharaoh' is suggestive of a reference to the story of the dragons of Dinas Emrys in Nant Gwynant, Snowdonia, as told in HISTORIA BRITTONUM and CYFRANC LLUDD AND LLEFELYS.

Thus the HB and the G. Tudfwlch has Vortigern possessing the dragon, while other Welsh sources assign it to Emrys/Ambrosius. It is only when we get to Geoffrey of Monmouth that we are told the dragon belongs not to Vortigern or Ambrosius, but to Uther Pendragon. Of course, Geoffrey takes the liberty of substituting the Northern Merlin (Myrddin) for Ambrosius of dragon fame, thus removing the king entirely from the dragon context. That author then confuses everything further by attaching the Ambrosius name to Merlin!

As I have already pointed out that the appearance of a comet in medieval tradition marks the death of a king, Geoffrey's claim that the dragon-comet represents not Ambrosius, but instead Uther, rings hollow. 

Unless, of course, in reality, the Terrible Chief-dragon is Ambrosius himself.




Thursday, August 29, 2024

THE BATTLE OF AMBROSIUS AND VITALINUS AT WALLOP BROOK: A NEW POSSIBILITY FOR BADON?

Danebury Camp at Wallop Brook

It has occurred to me that I should perhaps make more out of the possible *Ambirix and certain Fitela names at Amesbury as they relate to the supposed battle of Ambrosius and Vitalinus, an event mentioned in the HISTORIA BRITTONUM Chapter 66.

This Vitalinus is said to be the grandfather of Vortigern.  

For background on the British name *Ambirix, I again refer my readers to the following article:


For the AS personal name Fitela, found just a little north of Amesbury, see


Them most likely location for the Wallop battle would be the great Danebury Camp hillfort, which looks over the brook.



Now, forgetting for a moment the origin of Vortigern (usually placed at Gloucester, although there is good reason, as I have shown in a past study, for making him half-Irish with a totally different regional association), there is nothing wrong with "Ambrosius" being a Latin substitute for Ambirix, and Vitalinus being a similar substitute for AS Fitela. If this is allowed to have happened, we then have the Wallop battle being fought between a British chieftain at Amesbury and an invading Saxon named Fitela, whose name was left at Fittleton. 

Danebury's etymology is remarkably simple.  According to Watts, the early forms (Duwnebury, Dunbery, Dunbury), shows that this means merely 'Hill-fort.'






Thursday, August 22, 2024

THE FLY IN THE OINTMENT FOR MY UTHER AT ELEI THEORY: AMBROSIUS AT CAMPUS ELLETI

NOTE: Since writing this piece, it has occurred to me that the Cysceint (= L. Constantius) of the Elei in the PA GUR poem may also point to Uther as Ambrosius.  This is because in the Galfridian tradition Uther's brother was one Constans (a vague approximation of Constans II), and the historical Constans I had a brother, Constantius II.

While it is true that Cysceint's mother, Banon, was associated with a river of that name in Preseli, it is unlikely that the Constantius name was chosen for Uther's Elei for any other reason than someone, at some point, decided that the former should be associated with the latter because of the latter's relationship with Constans.

It may well be, therefore, that all of my long searching for a historical figure represented by Uther is for naught.  If Uther = Ambrosius, then to retain an Ambrosius as Arthur's father we would have to propose a man possessing the same name of the more famous Ambrosii of the Continent who originated in southern Wales at a later period.

Alternately, we may very tentatively suggest that Ambrosius as a name was confused with something like the *Ambirix name I have offered for Amesbury's etymology. 

Lastly, we have the quite unsatisfactory possibility that Mabon the Sun God was referred to as ambrosios in the sense of the 'Divine/Immortal One'.  In which case Arthur has been given a divine origin.  Mabon as Maponus, of course, was a god of the North, first and foremost, and at least his placement there would allow us to retain a Northern Arthur.   

The solution to this dilemma is to finally determine where and what Campus (or Palud) Elleti really was.  And I will be turning to that question in my next blog piece. 

The Book of Llandaf puts Palud Elleti, thought to be related
to Campus Elleti of Ambrosius fame, between Penmark and the 
River Thaw. That location, as it happens, lies directly between
the two forts of the River Ely and Gileston, formerly Llanfabon-
y-fro, the Church of Mabon in the Vale [of Glamorgan]. 

While considering the presence of Illtud, a possible Uther Pendragon, both at Llantwit Major and either Dinas Powys hillfort or that at Caerau, with a Mabon site directly in between, I had totally forgotten about the Campus Elleti of Ambrosius Aurelianus - which itself was supposedly only a very short distance from Gileston/Llanfabon-y-fro.

Granted, no one (including myself) has been able to find the field/plain of Elleti, or the marsh of Elleti. The word Elleti itself has proven notoriously difficult to etymologize.  The best still comes from Dr. Graham Isaac, which he provided to me decades ago now:

"The form of the name is corroborated by the instance of 'palude [Latin for “marsh” or “swamp”] Elleti' in Book of Llan Dav (148). But since both that and HB’s campum Elleti are in Latin contexts, we cannot see whether the name is OW Elleti (= Elledi) or OW Ellet (= Elled) with a Latin genitive ending. Both are possible. My guess would be that OW Elleti is right. As the W suffix -i would motivate affection, so allowing the base to be posited as all-, the same as in W ar-all 'other', all-tud 'exile', Gaulish allo-, etc. Elleti would be 'other-place, place of the other side (of something)'."

Professor Peter Schrijver has recently said of this proposed etymology that it "Makes sense."

All we can say is that the Book of Llandaf puts the place somewhere between Penmark and the River Thaw, and the most likely location is the Kenson River Valley
(https://www.ggat.org.uk/cadw/historic_landscape/llancarfan/english/llancarfan_003.htm). Kenson is an English name, and doubtless replaced an earlier Welsh name.  As it happens, there appears to have been a fort on the Kenson:

https://vogonline.planning-register.co.uk/Document/Download?module=PLA&recordNumber=75634&planId=1030074&imageId=54&isPlan=False&fileName=2.4%20East%20Aberthaw%20Solar%20Archeological%20Impact%20Assessment.pdf

GGAT02404s Concentric
ditched fort,
Kenson
Wood,
Llancarfan
Squared concentric-ditched fort c61m x 84m, with up to
five circuits. Well defined inner enclosure c57m x 38m
with simple entrance to E.
ST04686876 ROMAN,Iron Age
FORTLET,
Defended
enclosure
monument
(by
form),
defence
NEAR
DESTROYED

This is elsewhere described as an inland promontory fort


Such a site would seem to be the best possible candidate for Campus Elleti.

What is the possible significance of Ambrosius's home being near both the Ely and a Llanfabon, given that Uther Pendragon in the PA GUR is said to be the master of Mabon of Elei?

Well, I discussed a great many years ago a simple and straight-forward theory for the name Uther Pendragon.  This theory had to do with identifying Arthur's father with Ambrosius.  Here is some of the relevant text from that treatment of the idea:

"What all of this tells me is that I might well have been right, all those years ago, when I proposed, only half-seriously, that Uther Pendragon was merely a title for Ambrosius Aurelianus.  This latter "fictional" chieftain of Dinas Emrys was said to be (HB Chapter 48) rex magnus or the 'great king' among the Britains.  His fort was that of the Red Dragon, symbolic of the British, so he was the de facto pen or "chief" of that particular beast.  Also, Vortigern was said to have 'timore Ambrosii', dread of Ambrosius.  One of the meanings of Uther (see GPC) is 'dreadful'.  It was not difficult to see in this combination of facts the title Uther Pendragon.

To quote from Bruce's THE ARTHURIAN NAME DICTIONARY:

"After Geoffrey's chronicle, Ambrosius disappears from legend and romance for some time. The authors of the Prose Merlin and the Vulgate Cycle renamed him Pendragon [emphasis mine]. He resurfaces in the seventeenth century..."

Now, partly this can be explained by the Galfridian fusion of Ambrosius and Merlin at Dinas Emrys.  As Merlin now played a prominent role, that of Ambrosius would naturally have been downplayed or even to have disappeared.  However, it does not account for why the Pendragon epithet continued to be used as a separate character, and one plainly based on Ambrosius.  Instead, this would seem to be confirmation of my idea that Ambrosius IS Uther Pendragon.

I also once pointed out that in medieval tradition, a comet marked the death of a king. That is was, therefore, extremely odd that Geoffrey of Monmouth has the comet appear heralding Ambrosius's death, but say the dragon-star represents Uther.

For the Red Dragon of Vortigern, I have this old article available:


So, is Uther Pendragon = Ambrosius of the Red Dragon?

This could be true in legend, but there are major problems with the chronology of such an argument.  My own research has indicated that Ambrosius is a reflection either of St. Ambrose or his Gallic father of the same name or perhaps a conflation of both men.  I also demonstrated
(see https://mistshadows.blogspot.com/2020/05/why-ambrosius-aurelianus-was-put-in.html) that if Ambrosius was ever in Britain, it happened in the 4th century under the Emperor Constans.  The statement in the HISTORIA BRITTONUM that has Ambrosius fight the grandfather of Vortigern supports this view.  

If Arthur was thought to be the son of Ambrosius of the 4th century, then plainly Arthur could not have been fighting in the 5th-6th centuries.   And while it is tempting to suggest a later Ambrosius, the placement of this man at Campus Elleti, in Welsh Maes Elleti, is highly suspicious, as St. Ambrose was born at Trier on the Moselle.

Mŏsella , ae, m. and f.,
I.a river of Belgic Gaul, now the Moselle, Tac. A. 13, 53; id. H. 4, 71; 77: “largus Mosella,” Aus. de Clar. Urb. 4: “placida Mosella,” id. Idyll. 10, 73.—Also called Mŏsŭla , ae, f., Flor. 3, 10, 14.—Hence, Mŏsellēus , a, um, adj., of or belonging to the Moselle: “ortus,” Symm. Ep. 1, 8.

Some articles on Ambrosius that are helpful in tracing this folklore nature of this figure can be found here:



Notable among my first observations is that Ambrosius, whose name means 'the divine or immortal one', is found playing a ballgame and is accused by the other boys of not having a father.  This motif parallels exactly the Irish story of the youthful god Mac Og, the counterpart of Welsh Mabon.  The ballgame in the Irish story happens at the fairy hill of Bri Leith. Thus there is the very real possibility that Ambrosius was merely an honorific for the god, or that the Gallic Ambrosius came to be wrongly associated with the god at some point.  Mabon is found in Welsh tradition in Gwynedd (Nantlle) not far from Dinas Emrys.  

The name Ambrosius also seems to have been wrongly applied to Amesbury near Stonehenge, which
gave its name in the form Dinas Emrys to the fort in Arfon, Gwynedd, Wales.  The Ambri of Amesbury (see Watts) is generally thought to be an Old English personal name akin to OG Ambri.  But I once proposed a different idea that was found acceptable by the Celticists, at least:


Ambrosius is said to fight Vitalinus at Wallop in Hampshire, which is a short distance from Amesbury.  Even Vitalinus in this context is problematic, as Fittledean just a tiny bit north of Amesbury comes from an OE personal name Fitela, found in the form Viteletone, and as Fitelan slaedes (valley) at nearby Enford.  Vitalinus's father was supposedly Vitalis. 

I will "put on my thinking cap" over the next few weeks or months and try to decide if what we are looking at with Uther Pendragon is, indeed, Ambrosius.  Should that be the case, any hope of assigning Arthur to a real historical father would seem quite hopeless. 






Sunday, July 28, 2024

Arthur Son of Bicoir and the Slaying of Mongan Son of Fiachna

   
Arberth in Penbro


Long ago, I demonstrated that the Briton Arthur son of Bicoir was, in fact, Arthur son of Petuir of Dyfed.



What I had not fully explored is the reason why Arthur son of Petr/Pedr of Dyfed was linked to Kintyre in the Irish sources.

I think this is pretty obvious: the ancient and, presumably, Dark Age capital of Dyfed was Arberth in Penbro. Penbro, like Irish Kintyre, means Land's End.  Pen and Kin are cognates, and Welsh bro is found in its Irish form as OIr. mruig, MIr. bruig.

We have god reason for thinking the Dark Age Dyfed center was at or very near Arberth because of the survival of the Voteporigas stone:


"CASTEL-DAUYRAN (CASTELL-DWYRAN or DYRAM,) a chapelry, partly in the parish of KILMAENLLWYD, lower division of the hundred of DERRLYS, county of CARMARTHEN, partly in the hundred of DUNGLEDDY, county of PEMBROKE, SOUTH WALES, 4 1/2 miles (N.E.) from Narberth


Rhys/1896, 108--110, records that the stone had originally stood at Castell Dwyran...

Voteporigas was the great-grandfather of Arthur of Dyfed. The latter is thought (see Bartrum) to have been born c. 560. Mongan son of Fiachna was supposedly killed by Arthur son of Pedr in 625.  The stone (elsewhere referred to as a dragon stone or piece of pitchstone, which was restricted geologically to the Isle of Arran next to Kintyre) Arthur uses to kill Mongan may be a folk reflection of the name Pedr or Petrus.

Two questions need to be answered. First, if Arthur son of Pedr has been wrongly placed in Kintyre, how did this error come about? And, two, how did the name Arthur end up in Dyfed among the Deisi-descended royal dynasty?

It is possible, I suppose, that the name Arthur was confused with the name of the location of Mongan's grave:

U625.2
Áedán son of Cumuscach and Colmán son of Comgallán migrate to the Lord; and Rónán son of Tuathal, king of Ind Airthir, and Mongán, son of Fiachna of Lurga, die.

1] Remarkable are the four over whom it has closed without recall,
2] The earth of Cluain Airthir churchyard today:
3] Cormac the Handsome,
4] And Illann son of Fiachu.
1] The other two—
2] Many territories do service to them—
3] Are Mongán son of Fiachna of Lurga,
4] And Rónán son of Tuathal.


Cluain Airthir has been identified:

c. airthir
7 bps. of, Ll. 374, I. 110 b 1; ¶ 7 sts. of, Lb. 24; ¶ Fionntan of, Ai. 150 b; ¶ now Magheracloone, c. Mon., Ch. 78, Au. i. 94, Mi., Cri.; ¶ Cailcú of, Mt. 35, Ll. 363; ¶ = Caelchú ó Lúi Airthir, Fg. 182; ¶ Mongan mac Fiachnae, lord of C. Airrthir, Hb. 64

https://research.ucc.ie/doi/locus/C

Airthir (airther) means "eastern."

But this seems a bit far-fetched.

Instead, I think we must look to the second question: why did Pedr of Dyfed name his son Arthur? 

I have recently shown that the name Arthur apparently originated with Sawyl Benisel of Ribchester, and that it found its way into the Dalriadan royal house via Dal Fiatach connections:


Now Mongan belonged to the Dal nAraide in NE Ireland. To the north of the Dal nAraide were the Dal Riata, who founded Dalriada in Scotland. To the south of Dal Araide were the Dal Fiatach. These tribal groups were variously allied with each other or fighting against each other.  The best recent account of the interactions of these kingdoms during the floruit of Mongan comes from pp. 4-5 of John Bannerman's STUDIES OF THE HISTORY OF DALRIADA:




The poem on the death of Mongan tells us the warriors who kill him were in Kintyre.  Or, at least, they came from Kintyre:

T627.6
Mongan son of Fiachna Lurgan, stricken with a stone by Artur son of Bicoir Britone died. Whence Bec Boirche said:

Cold is the wind over Islay;
There are warriors in Cantyre,
They will commit a cruel deed therefor,
They will kill Mongan son of Fiachna.


If Mongan's killers really originated from Kintyre, then they were Dalriadans - that much is clear.  Yet this scenario is impossible to square with what appears to be a steady alliance between the Dal nAraide and the Dal Riata.

But what if Kintyre in the Irish Annal is an error for Penbro?  What if Pedr of Dyfed had married a Dal Fiatach princess, just as Sawyl Benisel had?  And the name Arthur had come from the Dal Fiatach into the Dyfed royal house?

The year dates for the death of Mongan and the death of his father Fiachna mac Baetain fall within a year of each other.  One finds, when going over the annals, that sometimes the same event is entered for different years.  Suppose Mongan died with his father at Leithat Midind, and Arthur son of Pedr was on the side of the Dal Fiatach king Fiachna mac Demmain?  An Arthur from Penbro could easily have been confused for the various Dalriadan Arthurs (Arthur son of Aedan or Conaing and Arthur grandfather of Feradach).

This solution to the Arthur son of Bicoir problem is particularly elegant in that it both accounts for how a Dyfed king could have been involved in warfare in the North as well as accounting for how the Arthur name came to be present in southwest Wales.  Such a solution must, of course, remain purely speculative as we lack any genealogical information regarding Pedr of Dyfed's wife and queen. 


































































Wednesday, July 24, 2024

WHY SAWYL BENUCHEL'S GRAVE IS AT ALLT CUNEDDA



I have recently suggested that the Sawyl Benuchel of the Life of St. Cadog is a displaced version of Sawyl Benisel of the North, and that the latter was situated in southern Wales because of the presence there of a St. Samuel at Llansawel.

Sawyl Benisel of the North is known to have had strong family connections in Cumbria.  See "PABO POST PRYDAIN AND HIS SONS (A MAP)" in https://mistshadows.blogspot.com/2021/07/a-fairly-radical-revision-of-my-earlier.html. What I hadn't thought about is the fact that Cunedda, in an elegy poem, is also placed in Cumbria:


This is interesting, in that Sawyl Benuchel's grave has traditional been placed on Allt Cunedda
not far from Cadog's monastery.  Cunedda in legend was said to have cleared the Irish from Kidwelly and Gower (when, in fact, he was Irish himself, hailing from Drumanagh, not Manau).  

While Cunedda's presence in the North of Britain is based upon spurious tradition, the possible association of a Sawyl with ties to Cumbria and a Cunedda who supposedly fought in Cumbria would suggest once again that the southern Sawyl is merely a relocated version of the nothern Sawyl. 

Monday, July 15, 2024

A Dumnonian or Penychen Magister Militum for Uther?: PA GUR Vs. the Galfridian Tradition

[NOTE: Since writing this piece, I have gone over the Arthurian battles again, and the connection of the name Arthur with both L. Artorius and an Irish royal family (whose lineage accounts for the Arthur name cropping up in the Dalriadan kingdom).  I've decided that the argument for an Arthur of the North is simply to strong to discount, and I cannot find a way to maintain a counter-argument for an Arthur of the South.  My book THE BATTLE-LEADER OF RIBCHESTER will stands as is.]


After over 30 years of Arthurian research, I have come to recognize two possible contenders for Uther Pendragon as those are presented to us in the traditional material.

I have recently set out my final argument for Illtud being Uther (a personage himself confused with Arthur's real father, Sawyl of the North).  But there was another one, viz. a 5th century Geraint of Dumnonia who could have taken on (or been given) the magister militum title of the British magister militum Gerontius.  Gerontius may have been called Uther because he caused dread in Sarus, or because the utriusque portion of one of his ranks had been confused in folk belief with the Welsh word uthr, spelled uter in a Latin source.  Latin utriusque has as its root the word uter. 

An Uther of Dumnonia fits in well with the Galfridian tradition, but also with some early Welsh materials, like the poem "The Stanzas of Geraint Son of Erbin." There is little difficulty fitting a Geraint as Arthur's father into the Dumonian genealogy, and all of the long-treasured Cornish, Devon and Somerset sites may be retained.  We can leave Madog and his son Eliwlad in Cornwall.  Cadbury Castle remains attractive and Glastonbury once again looms out of the mist, etc.  We even have the name Gorlois present at sites that were associated with Geraints:


But we have a problem: the Arthurian battles, if their names are taken literally, are not to be found in the South.  And they certainly aren't to be found along the border of Dumnonia and an expanding Wessex.  It is always possible, of course, that at least some of the Arthurian battle names were replaced by English ones.  In that case, as has long been recognized, we will never find them.  Still, there are definitely names that are extant in the North and it is difficult to deny their presence there.

It is also possible that during the legend-building process a purely Southern Arthur was given battles all over Britain for no other reason than to magnify his importance.  This is also a possibility scholars have recognized in the past. 

Thus the PA GUR seems to point to Sawyl Benisel, whose son could easily have fought in the Northern battles, while the tradition recorded by Geoffrey of Monmouth and other Welsh sources (which may be dependent on Geoffrey) would have us look to Gerontius/Geraint.

Which do we opt for?  How are we to decide between the two?  Is the case for the northern battles strong enough to cause us to favor a Northern Uther?  Or is the PA GUR's apparent identification of Illtud as Uther an example of spurious tradition?  

I will be addressing this issue some time in the near future.